Re: Loreto lines and flies
Posted by Grant on 2013-02-21 14:30:32
in reply to Loreto lines and flies posted by John on 2013-02-18 20:38:13
This all assumes you are talking about going in the summer while the dorado are around. Don't make it too complicated. The primary bait fish in the area, and the one you will be fishing over as live chum unless your luck is bad and there aren't any around, is the Flat Iron Herring or "Sardina". There are dozens of patterns for this purpose. You should have wet and popper versions. On really hot bite days I have lost and/or worn out a half dozen flies in a day, but that is not the norm. Also, a little variety can be helpful. Sometimes changing flies will get you a few more fish out of an otherwise stale pack of dorado and/or pick you up some fish when the bait is gone. For poppers, the RDCF flies are amazingly effective--the tube variety is the way to go, as when one breaks off during the landing without gaffing process (think monkeys and football here) you can retrieve it. For wets, I use the same stuff I would use in La Paz for roosters--something with a good profile that I can cast quickly and accurately. A good thing to know is that the longer any fish down there gets to examine your fly without competition the less likely it is to eat it, so casting, stripping, picking up and recasting quickly can make a big difference. When they begin to refuse a lot, change flies and/or move.
For lines, you need to be able to fish the wet and popper flies discussed above. You need an intermediate for the wets, a floater for the poppers, and a fast sinking line for the times that demand it. If there are lots of dorado and bait around, you will use the fast sinking line the least. If there are not, there's a good chance you will use it the most in an attempt to rescue the trip by fishing around structure for other species. A handful of smaller patters, e.g., Clousers, can be a nice thing to have for these times--and in recent years they are becoming ever more common.
Brand of line is obviously a personal choice, but I will make a couple recommendations. The Rio Leviathan series is really hard to beat for bluewater applications. They cast wonderfully, and they're very durable, and their cores are much stronger. Matched up with gsp backing, I have landed marlin, good sized YFT, and lots of other big fish without a single line/backing failure, so I am a big believer in their durability/strength. The SA Tarpon clear intermediate is a great line, too. Also, get an integrated sinking head--heads and running line are a pain in the butt on a panga.
Taking a back up line or two is not a bad idea. Bad things happen sometimes when dealing with big, angry saltwater fish. If you are acquiring gear for the first time, forget about extra spools--they're for trout fisherman not people traveling to saltwater fish. Get a line winder, some velcro strips, and ziplock bags to store your wound lines, and save the money you would have wasted on extra spools and backing to spend on another reel and rod combo. Ideally having all three of the setups mentioned here ready to go at the same time is what you need. When you happen on a laid up marlin or pack of sails and your captain tosses a handful of bait causing them to light up like the Fourth of July, the set up you need is composed of a spare spool in your bag, you might as well have a box of hammers along.
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